Do The Benefits Of Jihadist Training Camps In America Outweigh The Risks?

We just did a story on what we feel is the failure of the Department of Homeland Security to keep America safe.

And it generated comments from two sides of the fence, both whom claim to have experience in undercover intellegence operations.
You can read the original article and the comments here.

Of course, we have no means to verify or disprove undercover ops experience of the commenters.

One individual, going under the pseudonym Cherokee Parks, clearly understood the satirical nature of our implying that Janet Napolitano was getting her information from us.
And the point we were trying to make.
The other didn’t.

Regardless, the other person went on about how we have no idea of what is being done in order to keep America safe.
And stated that our “exaggerated journalism”  “reflects poorly on all of us.”
This individual also took the position that these jihadist training camps on American soil are common knowledge.

Let’s tackle that last one first.

After we closed up shop, Salvaterra and I went to one of our favorite spots to get a pizza and a few beers.
We are fairly well-know at this place, and we publicly asked the people there if they had ever heard of terrorist training camps here in America.
Out of roughly 40 people who were in the place, not one of them had ever heard of such a thing.

So much for exaggerated journalism.

Now, as to this person’s other position that everything that can be done is being done, we have one word:

Bull*hit!

Neither of us have any experience in intellegence gathering operations.
What we do have is common sense.

Which leads us to ask, what possible benefit is there to be gained by allowing these camps to exist?

Even if there is a CIA or FBI agent working undercover in one of these terrorist training grounds, what information is this agent likely to learn?

If the head jihadist receives word that another 9-11 style attack is forthcoming, will that person really be stupid enough to share that information with everyone in the camp?
Net gain.
Nothing.

Perhaps this person would learn of an additional training camp opening at another location.

Seeing as how the DHS doesn’t see fit to do anything as to the camps it does know about, what good does this information do?

We need someone to explain to us how in the world allowing these camps to operate right here in America is an effective strategy in keeping us safe.

Because it is our opinion that a group of terrorists who are already in this country, and could decide at any moment to leave the camp in order to kill civilians or to destroy an American city are a threat that needs to be dealt with in no uncertain terms.
James Bond tactics be damned.

And we can’t place all of the blame on Napolitano’s shoulders.

Former DHS directors Tom Ridge and Michael Chertoff are just as guilty for allowing this.

What is different now is, what do you think would would happen if say, members of a gun club or a veterans organization were to open up a similar style training camp?

Janet “you’re all potential domestic terrorists” Napolitano would call out a SWAT team and swarm the place faster than you could blink.

Of course, offending America’s veterans and offending a group of Muslim terrorists are two different things.

Again, we have no background in intellegence operations.

Therefore, we need someone to explain to us how allowing these camps to exist outweighs the dire risk that they pose.

A risk that could become a reality at any time.

The Department Of Homeland Security Finally Catches Up With The Freedom Medium

Janet Napolitano and her crew at the Department Of Homeland Security finally found us.

She must have stumbled across us, read some of our commentary, watched the Fox News videos, and started to become aware of what we have been talking about for months.

And we don’t mind her taking credit for our hard work, we just wish she had started paying attention a little sooner.

On October 12th, she made the following statements in an interview with Bloomberg TV:

“It is fair to say there are individuals in the United States who ascribe to al-Qaeda-type beliefs.”
“And so it makes information-sharing, it makes effective law enforcement and it makes the shared responsibility of law enforcement ever so important.”

Ms. Napolitano, we shared the sort of information that you are just now talking about months ago!

Take a look at updates to just two of our reports on this topic:

Back in April, we found that there are at least 35 Jihadist training camps right here in America, primarily on the eastern end of the country.
The Fox News video below outlines the practices of this movement, but our research uncovered more troubling information.

For instance, in just one example of what the government is allowing to take place on our own soil, there is a 50 acre jihadist training compound near the town of Red House in Virginia.
If you are down that way, it’s easy enough to find as there is a street sign pointing out the road to Sheikh Gilani Lane.
Sheikh Gilani is reported to be a close ally of Osama bin Laden.
Mubarak Ali Gilani is on record as having said that he wants to “purify” Islam through violent actions.

We also uncovered the fact that at all of these training camps, there is a sign identifying the groups as “The Muslims of the Americas.”
What you won’t see are any signs explaining that the name these groups use is an offshoot of Jamaat ul-Fuqra, a sister agency of Al-Qaeda.

In another example, there is a terrorist training camp near Hancock, N.Y. that calls itself “Islamberg.”
It is run by Ghulam Mustafa, another individual with close ties to Osama bin Laden.
Mustafa plays an important role in Al-Qaeda’s planning and financing.

If all of this wasn’t disturbing enough, then I came across this story in the New York Post reporting how members of al-Shabab, a radical Islamic group based in Somalia that has ties to both Al Qaeda and Somali pirates, have taken 20 young men from Minnesota to fight in Somalia. You can read the story here.

The facts we uncovered, along with the information in the video, are truly alarming.
Maybe the DHS should hire someone to read reports like ours, and to watch for similar news reports like this one:

Then, in July, we did an article reporting on how nearly 500 members of Hizb-Ut-Tahrir held a convention in a Chicago-area Hilton Hotel.

Although not officially recognized as a terrorist organization by the State Department, many terrorism experts, one example of which is shown in the video appearing a little later in this article, consider them to be more of a threat to America’s security than al-Qaeda.

The man appearing in the video, Walid Phares, explains how Hizb-Ut-Tahrir trains youth between the ages of 9 to 18 in the ideology of “Khilafah”, which is a fundamental belief in the rule of Islamic law no matter what the means that may be taken to achieve it.

A spokesman for the group, Mohammad Malkawi claims that the group condemns terrorism in any form.

That statement would appear to be at odds with actions taken by some of the groups alumni, such as Khalid Skeikh Mohammed, the alleged plotter of the 9-11 attacks, to name just one.

Watch the video:

Malkawi also made the statement that the objective of the group is ”To create an Islamic state of Khilafah in the Muslim World.”

“The Muslim World.”

Last time we checked, Chicago was not the heartland of the Muslim world.

And as we said at the time, none of this will come as a surprise to our regular readers and subscribers.

And if we are paying close attention to these things, then why aren’t the people who are in charge of keeping us safe doing so?

How in the hell could Ms. Napolitano and her crew at the DHS fail to recognize that perhaps a convention of 500 supporters of a radical Islamic ideology, as well as numerous terrorist training camps scattered across America are a serious threat to the safety and security of this country?

“It is fair to say there are individuals in the United States who ascribe to al-Qaeda-type beliefs.”

Good God Almighty Janet, you’re just figuring that out NOW?

Where the hell have you been?

We have nowhere near the access to information that you do.

We have been talking about it for months, you are just coming to realize it now?

Maybe if you were one of our subscribers you wouldn’t be so far behind the curve.

OK Ms. Napolitano, we gave you the information.

Do you also need us to explain to you what your next step is?

As you said Janet, information sharing is important.

So the next time you need to know something, pay us a visit.

We are always glad to help.

And based on your statements, and by allowing these sort of things to take place on American soil, you need all the help you can get.

DHS Is Not Invited To Terrorist Convention In Obama’s Hometown

Recently, nearly 500 members of Hizb-Ut-Tahrir held a convention in a Chicago-area Hilton Hotel.

Although not officially recognized as a terrorist organization by the State Department, many terrorism experts, one example of which is shown in the video appearing a little later in this article, consider them to be more of a threat to America’s security than al-Qaeda.

The man appearing in the video, Walid Phares, explains how Hizb-Ut-Tahrir  trains youth between the ages of 9 to 18 in the ideology of “Khilafah”, which is a fundamental belief in the rule of Islamic law no matter what the means that may be taken to achieve it.

A spokesman for  the group, Mohammad Malkawi claims that the group condemns terrorism in any form.

That statement would appear to be at odds with actions taken by some of the groups alumni, such as Khalid Skeikh Mohammed, the alleged plotter of the 9-11 attacks, to name just one.

Watch the video:

Malkawi also made the statement that the objective of the group is”To create an Islamic state of Khilafah in the Muslim world.”

“The Muslim world.”

Last time we checked, Chicago was not the heartland of the Muslim world.

Of course, none of this will come as a surprise to our regular readers and subscribers.

Back in April, we reported on how Jihadist terror cells have been training right here on American soil.

We pointed out that there are at least 35 of these terror cells in our country, such as a 50 acre compound in Virginia, or another camp in New York that calls itself “Islamberg”.

We also made mention of reports revealing that al-Shabab, a radical Islamic group based in Somalia that has ties to al-Qaeda as well as Somali pirates were recruting young men from Minnesota to become part of their piracy network.

All of us are left wondering where is Janet Napolitano and the rest of the Department of Homeland Security while all of this is going on.

What sort of death and destruction will have to befall America before Ms. Napolitano and her crew at the DHS recognize that perhaps a convention of 500 supporters of a radical Islamic ideology, as well as numerous terrorist training camps scattered across America are the true “potential domestic terrorists?”

Any of you wondering why a Hilton hotel would host such a convention, visit our friend Pamela at Atlas Shrugs.