Health Care Plan Denies Chemotherapy Treatments
August 22, 2009 · carl · Print This Article
President Obama and his fellow end-of-lifers in Congress continue to deny that their health care reform bill contains “assisted suicide” provisions.
They make this claim in spite of the bill containing QARY terminology.
QARY is an angel of death acronym for Quality Adjusted Remaining Years.
And what it boils down to is that how much money will be spent on an elder or disabled person’s medical treatment is going to be determined, not by that person’s doctor, but by a government panel which will determine if spending the money for treatment is justified based on an estimate of how many years of life that person has left.
I recently heard one member of the Kool-Aid Brigade make the statement that Congress would never allow such a thing to happen in the United States of America.
So how do all of these Josef Mengele death squad wannabes explain how the case of Barbara Wagner, who was told that the state would not provide funding for her chemotherapy, but would put up the funding for assisted suicide?
How would all of you Kool-Aid drinkers feel if this was your mother?
And how many of you are really stupid enough to believe that such a thing won’t happen under Obama’s plan?
How many of you supporting this boondoggle of a “reform” bill are really sure that you won’t watch a family member be denied treatment if it passes?
Are you sure enough to bet a loved ones life on it?
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This a a great example of what Obamacare will be like. If the press in this country were not so biased this story would be everywhere. Thanks, Carl for finding it for us.
So, what about people who are denied treatment by private insurance companies? People who have their policies canceled by private insurance companies? People who can’t get coverage by private insurance companies, because of their illness?
And why is this drug so expensive?
And why do you seem to think that any insurance plan, private or government, has infinite funds?
@Twitchy
Why is the drug so expensive, cost of research, materials, distribution, jumping through hoops to get it approved, lawsuits, and other general bureaucracy caused buy people who look at the drug manufacturers as a cash cow.
Most of that can’t apply, or every new drug would be that expensive.
And, again, how is this that different from how private insurance companies operate? Except that they probably wouldn’t even be willing to pay for the assisted suicide.
@Twitchy
First off by definition chemotherapeutic drugs are processed nuclear material, very expensive to manufacture. I think you missed the “materials” section of my sentence or you are completely ignorant the manufacturing cost of anything. In case you are just lacking knowledge about manufacturing in general, a good example aside from drugs is guitars. Say you want to buy a new guitar, you can buy a guitar that is esentually cardboard for less than $100, or you can buy a guitar made with rare rosewood or koa wood, and abalone inlays for $50,000. The process of building the two is essentially the same, but the material costs are vastly different.
Drug companies essentially have 5 years to make back there money on research before they have another company steal their patent and without the associated research and approval costs sell their drug.
The difference is you can file a laws suit with the government if you feel you’ve been treated unfairly buy a insurance company. You have no one to appeal to if the Government has all the control.
Don’t even get me started on the idea of Government being involve in assisted suicide decisions. Or if you must, read the Giver by Lois Lowery before you get back to me.
@ Twitchy
On top of that the government is bad at running anything, Medicare, Medicaid and Social security are all broke already.
Tarceva, the drug involved in the Oregon case, is not “processed nuclear material”. It’s chemical formula is C22H23N3O4. It doesn’t work through any form of radiation.
It’s been on the market since 2005, and the US patent doesn’t run out until 2020.
Like anyone else, you can always appeal to your Congressperson, or the media. You might have a better chance that way with your insurance company, too. At least a better chance of getting results before you die.
You’re basing your opinions on a children’s scifi novel? Why not Logan’s Run, or Soylent Green?
And it won’t be long, the way things are going, before your private insurance is broke, or at least until your employer can’t afford it any more.
@The Other Lou
Thanks buddy. Maybe common sense will win out yet.
@Twitchy
TWITCHY! You’re back!
Now we now where you disappeared to.
After you finished your studies in document authenticity, you must have enrolled in a course of pharmaceutical research.
No, just advanced common sense and countering wackoism. This site is a goldmine for my dissertation on fringe conspiracy theories!
So after your dissertation, you will have a Ph.D. in fringe conspiracy theories? That will be impressive on your resume right next to “Documentologist” and “Nuclear Biologist”.
With those credentials you could be qualified to start up the NAACS (National Association for the Advancement of Common Sense).
Welcome back Twitchy.
Where there’s a need, I’m there! But there’s no need for “Nuclear Biologist” on my resume. That’s The Other Lou’s claim to fame.
But the National Association for the Advancement of Common Sense. Now, there’s a need!